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Realignment

Postby BlueDevil2002 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:30 am

Has anything come out of UIL about how they are going to realign now that Harvey has displaced a huge amount of students? My guess is they keep the districts the same and realign after next year. Just a thought.

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Re: Realignment

Postby endguardtackle » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:50 pm

Msg PurplePunch, he would know!!!!

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Re: Realignment

Postby Blackshirt » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:19 pm

Refugio might go 2A div 2 after loss of students to hurricane.

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Re: Realignment

Postby PurplePunch » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:44 pm

My understanding is that the UIL hasn't made a decision yet. Executive council involved. Lots of factors to consider, but only a (relative) handful of schools.

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Re: Realignment

Postby CanadianFan » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:27 am

Knowing folks at the UIL as well as I do I can almost certainly guarantee they will not put realignment off a year.

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Re: Realignment

Postby Windthorstfan » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:34 am

CanadianFan wrote:Knowing folks at the UIL as well as I do I can almost certainly guarantee they will not put realignment off a year.

I agree with this statement!!!

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Re: Realignment

Postby tlbredemeyer » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:54 am

Windthorstfan wrote:
CanadianFan wrote:Knowing folks at the UIL as well as I do I can almost certainly guarantee they will not put realignment off a year.

I agree with this statement!!!


... and they'll use the numbers available on the census date regardless of whether or not any students are considered to be displaced.

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Re: Realignment

Postby Blackshirt » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:34 pm

Any big changes to your schools enrollment? What class will your school be in??

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Re: Realignment

Postby PurplePunch » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:56 am

tlbredemeyer wrote:
Windthorstfan wrote:
CanadianFan wrote:Knowing folks at the UIL as well as I do I can almost certainly guarantee they will not put realignment off a year.

I agree with this statement!!!


... and they'll use the numbers available on the census date regardless of whether or not any students are considered to be displaced.

I hope and believe the UIL will work with the TEA, using the fall PEIMS data submission, to gather the data it needs. TEA knows how many are displaced, their names, home school districts, and whether they plan to return. To ignore this wealth of information and make an ignorant decision would be shameful. The UIL and TEA work together on many things, including things like this. I'm hopeful the wise will prevail and we will get a best-possible outcome.

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Re: Realignment

Postby endguardtackle » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:46 pm

PurplePunch wrote:
tlbredemeyer wrote:
Windthorstfan wrote:I agree with this statement!!!


... and they'll use the numbers available on the census date regardless of whether or not any students are considered to be displaced.

I hope and believe the UIL will work with the TEA, using the fall PEIMS data submission, to gather the data it needs. TEA knows how many are displaced, their names, home school districts, and whether they plan to return. To ignore this wealth of information and make an ignorant decision would be shameful. The UIL and TEA work together on many things, including things like this. I'm hopeful the wise will prevail and we will get a best-possible outcome.


You are so smart!!!!! I knew it!!!!!

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Re: Realignment

Postby Blackshirt » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:54 pm

Yes it should consider possible students to come back. Wouldnt be fair to say have Refugio playing 2A div.2 and have numbers next year with 220 and year after against schools with 160 and below. Rockport Aransas Pass and Ingleside could also move a division down too. These are small schools only i can think of that would be altered.

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Re: Realignment

Postby HawleyRocks » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:02 pm

Yes you can certainly build a case for both these issues... And while it is certain going to be a tough situation for UIL... I think you have to go with the numbers prior to Harvey and then when everything settles for the next realignment then it should be a much more clear picture... Just my opinion, but UIL is notorious for doing something totally different, so I guess we shall see....
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Re: Realignment

Postby PurplePunch » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:45 pm

If you read through the collection times at this link )http://tea.texas.gov/Reports_and_Data/Data_Submission/PEIMS/PEIMS_Data_Standards/2017-2018_PEIMS_Collection_Schedule/)
you will see that there was an end-of-school submission that designated graduates and returning students by grade, a school start window submission that identifies returning and new enrollees, and an October window that firms things up. By comparing the students in each they can ascertain who should be there, who is, and who isn't. I spent 10 years at TEA and had a hand in identifying and correcting PEIMS errors, among many other things. Believe me, there is a wealth of individual student data available. If certain questions are added to a UIL/TEA query they can make a truly informed decision that will eliminate the problem of schools temporarily affected moving down, or schools with temporary refugees moving up, so the 2018-2020 alignment accurately reflects the actual enrollment, not a hurricane affected drop or jump. It's not rocket surgery, but it will require a targeted response to an unprecedented situation.

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Re: Realignment

Postby Blackshirt » Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:27 pm

Good info Purple Punch


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